Are we born with so called Original sin or born innocent ?

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This post is an answer to a new friend whom I recently met and respect , a devout Christian  passionate about sharing his religion with others , who challenged me to provide some proofs regarding why Muslims don't accept the doctrine of  original sin; a doctrine ( including the concept of trinity ) that  was  added by the Church at the Council of Nicaea some 325 years after Jesus left the earth.  Notice I say left the earth ( meaning resurected alive by Allah )  and not died yet or crucify as some claims ,  but that is a topic for another day. Back to the doctrine of original sin.

Are we born with so called Original sin or born innocent ?

Is a Newly Born Baby really a Sinner? Islam Challenges The Concept of Original Sin. Let us found out why ?

let's take a look at the following passages from The Bible:

(Deuteronomy 24:16)

 “The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers, every man shall be put to death for his own sin.”

 (Jeremiah 31:30): “But every one shall die for his own iniquity...”

(Ezekiel 18:20): “The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father; neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” 

After reading the above verses,  would you not agree that The Bible itself teaches that each of us is responsible for our own actions?

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Let us ponder what the Quran has to say :

“And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden”. (Quran 35:18) 

Sahih International Quran 35:18

And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And if a heavily laden soul calls [another] to [carry some of] its load, nothing of it will be carried, even if he should be a close relative. You can only warn those who fear their Lord unseen and have established prayer. And whoever purifies himself only purifies himself for [the benefit of] his soul. And to Allah is the [final] destination.

Sahih International translation of Quran Surat 2 Ayat 48 :

And fear a Day when no soul will suffice for another soul at all, nor will intercession be accepted from it, nor will compensation be taken from it, nor will they be aided.

Quran 2 Al-Baqarara : 48

So it would seem that The Bible and Quran are in agreement on this topic. And as we go along further on this journey of truth-seeking, we'll see that this happens more often than not.

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To seek forgiveness, one must sincerely repent directly to the one from whom forgiveness emanates, Allah. 

Adam and Eve were responsible for their own sin. They  both repented and they were both forgiven by Allah. There is no need for anyone to die for anyone . You can never establish justice by injustice ( Killing an innocent man for the sins of others is the ultimate injustice )

The Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful

As for the sin of Adam, the Quran tells us that he repented for his sin.  God revealed to him words with which to repent, which he then accepted from him.

“Then Adam received Words (of forgiveness) from his Lord, and he accepted his repentance.  Verily, He is the One Who repeatedly accepts repentance, the Most Merciful.” (Quran 2:37)

Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, but He forgives anything other than this to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin. (4.48)

 “And they plotted to kill Jesus and God planned too.  And God is the Best of the planners.” (Quran 3:54)

“And because of their boasting, "We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God." But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man, and those who differ therein are full of doubts.  They have no (certain) knowledge; they follow nothing but conjecture.  For surely, they killed him not.  But God raised him (Jesus) up unto Himself.  And God is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.” (Quran 4:157-158)

And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, why callest thou me good? There is none good but one that is God: but if thou will enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19: 16-17)

So, Jesus showed to the Jewish person who was asking him (Matthew 19:  16-17) that the keeping of the commandments is the only way to God and a key to salvation. God affirms what Jesus, and all His apostles say about that matter. Allah  says in the Quran : "whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has Faith, verily, to him will We give a new life a life that is good and pure, and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their action (16: 97).

 So, one will be saved according to his deeds, and not according to something else. 

Everyone is responsible for his deeds and no one will save the other. Allah reveals in the Quran 82:17-19: 

"And what will explain to thee what the Day of Judgment is? 18. Again, what will explain to thee what the Day of Judgment is? 19 (It will be) the Day when no soul shall have power (to do) ought for another: for the Command, that Day, will be (wholly) with Allah (82: 17-19)"

Is Jesus God or a Son Of God ? 

Let us please take a look at the Bible , there are several references that illustrate that Jesus may peace and blessing be upon him is a Prophet and messenger of Allah that was born miraculously from virgin Mary ( please read surat Mariam ( Mary the mother of Jesus ) chapter 19 in the Quran.
Let us now open the bible and check the following references  : John 5:37; 1 Timothy 6:16; Exodus 33:20 we shall see whether Jesus ever claim to be God or his Son ? 

YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD HIS VOICE NOR SEEN HIS FACE. (John 5: 37) 

 NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN HIM. AND NO ONE CAN SEE HIM.(1 Timothy 6: 16)

NO ONE CAN SEE ME AND STAY ALIVE. (Exodus 33: 20)

Based on these and other Biblical texts, I sincerely and honestly ask: “How can we claim that Jesus is God knowing this Bible testimony that no one has ever seen God, nor heard His voice?”

Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only. (Matthew 4: 10)

Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord. (Mark 12: 29)

 

1) There is only one God: “There is no god save Allah” (47.19).(2) He is the “creator of everything” (6.102).(3) Before starting the creation, God was alone; eternity is strictly God’s: “He is the first and the last” (57.3).(4) He is the supreme ruler of the universe: (5) God is unique and dissimilar to anything: “There is nothing like Him” (42.11).(6) He is subtle and out of the reach of anyone’s senses: “Vision cannot grasp Him, but He grasps all vision; and He is the Subtle One, the Aware One” (6.103).

112:1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;   Qul huwa Allahu ahadun   112:2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;   Allahu alssamadu   112:3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;   Lam yalid walam yooladu   112:4 And there is none like unto Him.   Walam yakun lahu kufuwan ahadun

The doctrine of original sin in Spanish translated by Dr. Jesus Marti cohost and translator for Islam4mankind weekly Radio program :

Saludo dePaz,Esta sección es una respuesta a unbuen amigo a quién recientemente tuve el placer de conocer y por quién sientoun profundo respeto y admiración, un devoto Cristiano quién apasionadamentecomparte su religión con otros, quién me reta a proveerle pruebas sobre porquelos Musulmanes no aceptamos la Doctrina del Pecado Original; una Doctrina(Incluyendo el Concepto de la Trinidad) que fue añadida al Cristianismo en elConcilio de Nicea que tuvo lugar y fue celebrado unos 325 años después de lapartida de Jesús de la Tierra. Nótese que indico que partió de la Tierra y no que este muriera, este esotro tópico para otro día.  

Regresandoa la Doctrina del Pecado Original, demos una mirada a los siguientes pasajes dela Biblia. (Deuteronomio24:16) “Los padres no morirán por culpa de los hijos ni los hijos por culpa delos padres. Cada cual morirá por su propio pecado.”(Jeremías 31:29-30): 31:29 En aquellos días, nose dirá más: Los padres comieron uva verde y los hijos sufren la dentera. 31:30 No, cada uno morirá por supropia iniquidad:

todo el que coma uva verde sufrirá la dentera.todo el que coma uva verde sufrirá la dentera.todo el que coma uva verde sufrirá la dentera.(Ezequiel 18:20): La persona que peca, esa morirá; el hijo no cargarácon las culpas del padre, ni el padre cargará con las culpas del hijo. Sobre eljusto recaerá su justicia, y sobre el malvado, su maldad.

¿Con todo el debido respeto y despuésde leer los versos arriba citados, no estamos entonces de acuerdo en que cadacual es responsable por sus propios actos?
¿ Que nos dice sobre este particularel Sagrado Libro del Corán?“Nadie cargará con la carga ajena. Y si alguien, abrumado por su carga,pide ayuda a otro, no se le ayudará nada, aunque sea pariente. Tú sólo debesadvertir a los que tienen miedo de su Señor en secreto y hacen la azalá. Quiense purifica se purifica en realidad, en provecho propio. ¡Dios es el fin detodo!  “ (Corán 35:18)

“Temedun día en que nadie pueda satisfacer nada por otro, ni se acepte la intercesiónajena, compensación ni auxilio.” Surah 2 (AlBaqara),  Aleya # 48 :
Aparenta ser que tanto la Biblia como el Coran estánde acuerdo en este asunto.  Y segúnprofundizamos en este camino en búsqueda de la verdad vemos como esto se repitecon más frecuencia.Por favor sigan atentos y en sintoníacon nuestro Programa de Radio Semanal Islam4mankind, todos los jueves de 1:10pm hasta las 2:00 pm por La Mágica 1220 am, donde en estas semanas estamosdiscutiendo el tema sobre “Los Profetas”. Próximamente haremos un programasobre “El Pecado o La Bondad Original” que sabemos será para el deleite einstrucción de toda nuestra audiencia.

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The holy quran_spanish from Rachid Mahdi